Saturday, January 10, 2009

Re:GAZA: The Madness Must Stop!

1-10-2009 ~ Sabado @1:37 AM ~ Full Moon Today!
Let us support the Palestinian people and do what we can from where we are at in order to get to the root of the whole global problem that resonates from Amerikan Empire: Fascism on the domestic level, Amerikan Imperialism on the international level and supported by Amerikan corporate capitalism in the global market place.

Total warfare, including spiritual warfare, is waged from all lines, all angles and from all trajectories by any means mandatory!!!

At the same time, let us be careful to make keen distinctions between governments and regular leadership and the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people who are indigenous to their own lands. We are all indigenous native peoples!

Education for Liberation!

Peter S. Lopez aka: Peta
Sacramento, Califas, Aztlan


Key Link:

{Edited Below}


From: Sergio Hernandez <>


Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:04:33 AM

Subject: Re: [NetworkAztlan_Action] Re: [NetworkAztlan_Arte] Fwd: GAZA... Let the whole world know ! horrible pictures!


Well said!....... ..Serg

On Jan 9, 2009, at 10:07 PM, Bejarano wrote:


> *From Hell, let's boycott MADNESS!


> We should boycott to withdraw from the madness and refuse to cooperate with Israelites' Zionist and Palestinians' Hamas. I feel they will not stop in their opposition to each other, I say, let them go to their destruction.


> The UN can not save them. "Israel and Hamas ignore UN call for cease-fire." We all know their historical misfortunes, and from their faith comes too much terror, fear, despair and casualty of their battles. I feel that we can not bring to them their punishment or protection "arms" that surely would fail and return to us even more disasters. I think of the innocent victims, the poor, oppressed and disenfranchised people that must be helped, to protest a liberation for peace in the Middle East.


> The beast "world capitalism" in its anger and hate that is bent toward more wars, greater expansion of state/private property and profits; willing in torturing people, killing children by the thousands, It's MADNESS.


> We should boycott all nations who provide the machinery of death and destruction and have no part in its' ways. The MADNESS Must Stop!


> G01B


> --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Ron Gochez <mexicanoatucla@> wrote:


From: Ron Gochez <mexicanoatucla@>

Subject: [NetworkAztlan_ Action] Re: [NetworkAztlan_ Arte] Fwd: GAZA... Let the whole world know ! horrible pictures!


To: NetworkAztlan_ Arte@yahoogroups

Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 3:04 PM


Of course

Hamas fighters are going to be fighting among children; they

ALL live in a TINY little piece of land called Gaza. FYI,

the Gaza strip is tiny (about the same length as the

distance from Anaheim to Glendale) and totally surrounded by

Israeli terrorists (aka IDF); so where is Hamas (or any

other freedom fighters) supposed to fight from??


The Palestinian freedom fighters have every right to use

any and all forms of struggle (including violence) against

the terrorist state of Israel because brutal force is what

Israel has used against them from the very initial existance

of the state of Israel (please research Irgun, Stern gang).

If Africans and the Indigenous people's had bombs 500+

years ago, would you blame them for using them against the

terrorists who came here on boats from Europe? Would you

call Geronimo, Sitting Bull, Nat Turner, Crazy Horse,

Harriet Tubman, Manuelito and other African/Native leaders

"terrorists" because they showed young Indigenous/African
children how to fight against the the occupier/invader?


Israel is in no moral position to call the Palestinians

terrorists; and neither are we. Hell, we are the ones that

are financing the terrorism (our tax $$$) and most of us are

doing NOTHING about it! So we are in no position to point



As Raza, WE ourselves have been occupied (like Gaza is

today) since 1492 and then again in 1848. We should be

totally in support of the brave people of Palestine. They

are doing what most Hispanics today would NEVER do; fight

for their land, dignity and freedom.


War itself is not the problem. Reactionary war is the

problem. There is a HUGE difference between the two.

Revolutionary war and war for freedom is and should always

will be absolutley justified. Oppressed peoples have every

right to free themselves.. .by any means neccessary.


Viva Palestina libre!

Ron Gochez

Social Justice Educator/Community Organizer


-----Original Message-----

From: Sergio Hernandez <chiliverde@ earthlin

To: NetworkAztlan_ Arte@yahoogroups .com

Sent: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 1:54 pm

Subject: Re: [NetworkAztlan_ Arte] Fwd: GAZA.... Let the

whole world know ! horrible pictures!


I'm with you Armando....Carlos sent me some terrible

pictures of death and destruction by the Israeli forces on

the Palestinians. ...then I get a bunch of pictures of Hamas

fighters fighting among children and children being

indoctrinated by Hamas to continue the terror...where does

this madness stop?......I don't think it never will and

it will eventually lead to the destruction of both........

.. possibly the world STOP WAR!......... ....Serg


On Jan 9, 2009, at 12:39 PM, armando baeza



Better than that , BOYCOTT WAR.


Children live (die) in every country.




On Jan 9, 2009, at 9:47 AM, armando@artegana s.

com wrote:


It is high time to boycott Israel, it's products

and services. Someone please provide a list of Israel companies doing business in

the U.S.


DO not buy products produced in Israel!


Thank you.


Quoting Carlos Callejo <


--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Trgunn1@ <Trgunn1@ aol.

  com wrote:


From: Trgunn1@ <Trgunn1@


   Subject: Fwd: GAZA... Let the whole world know !

  horrible pictures!


To: ccallejo@ yahoo.  com,


  Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 8:35 PM


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Thursday, January 08, 2009

Reflections on Thursday, January 8, 2009

Thursday Mornng ~ Our CASA Meetings are held every Sunday at 7 PM and open to the public free-of-charge. We do not even pass the basket.

Yes, it is true that it is a great blessing to have strong support from others who support us in our efforts at on-going sobriety, progressive recovery and spiritual healing.

Our personal recovery and personal liberation can sometimes be a very lonely state of existence, especially if we isolate and insulate ourselves and are not open to new ideas and ideals. This is part of why we sometimes meet in group settings with different venues.

I know my Lovely Peach has been a blessing for me and she already has some good sobriety time from prescription drugs for so-called bi-polar disorder, in fact, since September 14th, 2008. I see the need for prescription drugs for some to help them to cross-over into total sobriety from all addictive substances. We do not want to replace chemical addiction with street drugs with lifelong addiction to prescription drugs.

We all need to see the urgent need for daily sane and sober recovery but should be wise and have a vision for working on our spiritual healing. Sobriety is the starting point, but sobriety alone is not enough. We need to recover, repair and rebuild ourselves as triune humane beings living life on life's terms and daily coping with life-problems. We are living entities in the entire mind-body-soul trinity as creatures of the Creator.

We need to comprehend and accept key facts:
1. We are creatures of the Creator. Our Higher Power is the Creator, no one else. The Holy Bible was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit and the original principles of the A.A. 12-Steps Program came from the Holy Bible!!!
2. Drug addiction and other disorders are manifestations of our divorce from the Creator. Drug addicts are alienated from the Creator God and their true inner selves.
3. Drug addiction is a mental ilness and spiritual disease. This dis-ease causes suffering.
4. We must go beyond the cloak of anonymity, get involved in what is ultimately our own spiritual healing and be sensitive to global humane rights issues, including the persecution of drugs addicts who require wholistic drug treatment programs, not repressive jails, prisons and institutions.
5. At one level of another, all addictions and other disorders require us raising our own personal self-esteem in terms of self-love, self-respect and self-confidence.

These are a few facts and relative conclusions I have obtained from my involvement with homeless refugees at the local Salvation Army Emergency Shelter for well over twelve years both as a client and as a staff member.

No one has cornered the market on truth. Each of us must come to know our own truth in a way that works for us. We merely offer general guidelines. The hard work is for us to inspect ourselves, come to really know ourselves and see our role in the world in relation to a true cosmic consciousness. We must make amends to those we have wronged, go through a true repentence in our spiritual awakening and remember not to take our own selves too seriously. Humor and laughter are natural remedies!

Education for Liberation!

Peter S. Lopez aka: Peta


Key Link:

From: "" <>
Cc: John Randolph Engbeck <>; Peta Lopez <>
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 8:49:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Sane-and-Sober] Re: Read: It's all good! ~ from Peta-de-Aztlan

It's good to be reconnected to both of you. Yes the SLE's are actually not part of my recovery program. The NA material as well as my association with the church's Overcomers Program is what has been keeping me sane. The help of this beautiful Flipina in the program and with me in church is a blessing also.
Maybe a meeting at CASA for starters.... .
I hear that guy Peta has a few good words to share....

Robert S. Lopez - "Tata"

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, John Engbeck <jengbeck@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: John Engbeck <jengbeck@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Sane-and-Sober] Re: Read: It's all good! ~ from Peta-de-Aztlan
To: "Robert Lopez" <robertslopez14@>, "Peter S. Lopez" <peter.lopez51@>
Cc: "Sane-and-Sober Yahoo-Group" <Sane-and-Sober@ yahoogroups. com>
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 2:36 PM

Thank you for writing.  I would like to be Friends with you, Unlce Joe, and Hermano Roberto.  I would probably like to leave the SLE business out of the conversation, as it seems you may as well. 
SOCIAL ADVOCACY: I think this is a nearly limitless area that beckons of adventure, and learning, and sharing. 
My view is that giving is its own benefit.  I enjoy giving, and seek no recompense other than the joy it brings in the "doing".  I will like to go to meetings sometimes.  I have a new car to carry "Soul-diers" ! 

John Randolph Engbeck
PO Box 536
Garden Valley, CA 95633