Tuesday, October 10, 2006

Re: Pedro> Elections Come and Go.....

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Martes = 10-10-2006 @11:24 AM
Gracias Otra Vez Companero Pedro!
Indeed, elections come and go. We need to look at the building up of local group collectives to do the basic community organizing that needs to be done by creating communes that can help the people with day-to-day survival needs. A key element always needs to be community education, along with voter registration for upcoming elections on a constant on-going basis.

There has been a lull in the momentum around immigrant rights movement and that for me is to be expected.

Links to Immigrant-Rights-Agenda Reports=
06-24-2006 to 9-04-2006

http://liberation-now.blogspot.com/2006/09/links-to-immigrant-rights-agenda.html


Related Yahoo Group=

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Immigrant-Rights-Agenda/


A lot of the basic community organizing has never been well done on the local levels and if it was it was not sustained and developed over the years. If it would have been we would already be working in cohesion with other groups on a national and ultimately international level on a wide range of social issues in a way that cuts across racial lines and crosses borders worldwide which still needs to be done. It’s all a protracted process.

I support Phil Angelides for Governor and will vote for him on November 7th, 2006, However, I want to find out what the Democratic Party will do to help us poor people build up local power bases of operation for our own empowerment in order to build the necessary community infrastructure for mass mobilization with an eye for the Presidential Elections in 2008.

Of course, one’s perspectives will differ depending on one’s geographical location and personal experiences. In many ways, the Los Angeles area seems more organized with a myriad of clubs, groups and organizations of Latinos, but I remember hearing that Cesar Chavez once called it 'the graveyard of organizers'.

I suspect a lot of our potential and manifest leadership is actually locked up in the California penal system and that is a sorely neglected area we need to get more involved with for further liberating action!

Regrettably, most of the local liberal-radical left-wing individuals who should be working allies do not work together as we should on a common humane rights agenda. Everyone has to wave their own flag, promote their own website, have their own agendas and have their own set priorities. Meanwhile, the people remain in the dark ages….. endlessly marking time.

I do meet some positive people in the local progressive democracy movement in Sacramento and will continue working them. We need to unite with all progressive elements of the Democratic Party and third parties keeping in mind our common survival interests.

http://www.sacramentofordemocracy.org/

Many partisans confuse temporary tactics with long-range strategic empowerment modules.

Myself, I am ‘in the process’ of building up a local vanguard education party called the Humane Liberation Party with some local ‘camaradas’ but it is slow agonizing lonely work. I mainly relate to and spend time with lumpen-proletarian street people who are not afraid to offer real resistance to Amerikan Fascism. Plus, I have other community-oriented interests working with homeless domestic refugees and recovering drug addicts! My kind of people!

I am working part-time as a health care worker and last I checked there were no openings for full-time community mobilizers for advancing the collective cause of social liberation that pays enough as a career goal!

At 54-Earth years I have witnessed a lot of the ebb-and-flow of social movements. Sometimes coming closer to our calculations, other times receding further away and always threatening to drown in an ocean of contradictions.

Hell, I could write a movie script, Journeys to Aztlan! I would have my own cast of characters replete with brujos and brujas!

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Peter S. Lopez ~aka Peta de Aztlan
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Re: [latinosineducation] Response: Phil Wins Debate
Pedro Olivares <polivares2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
Phil needs to spend many hours and days in San Diego,
Ca. to motivate the voters. The media is not too much
towards Phil and we Arnold all the time.

In San Diego, Ca. Phil can visit the schools, the teachers working in the schools, the Latino&Latina Coalition, the police and fire departments. Phil needs to make his way to the Mexican Border towns and rally support for him. San Isidro, Calexico, Indio, Chula Vista, Santa Maria, Salinas, Fresno and all heavy populated towns and cities.

The media down in San Diego gives Arnold more coverage and the clips are longer for Arnold then for Phil.

Phil looks very negative. A turn around now needs to surface.

I often campaign for Congressman Bob Filner and have been on the campaign passing fliers when Leon Panetta ran for congress in the late 70's.

Again Phil needs to spend time in San Diego, Ca.

--- "Peter S. Lopez de Aztlan" <
sacranative@yahoo.com>
wrote:

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Sunday Night 10-08-2006 @11:33 PM
Gracias Companero Pedro O. ~ I was there at Sac State and saw the Gubernatorial Debate via a big televised screen along with many other Angelides supporters. There was a lot of good positive energy. Tonight I found the Internet link to hear and view it without juvenile distraction.

Video Link= Watch the 2006 Gubernatorial Debate
http://cbs5.com/video/?id=17034@kpix.dayport.com

The intelligence of Phil Angelides won the debate for him and Governator Arnold was way out of his brain-weight division. It was no real contest.

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Article Link=
http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2006/10/a_preliminary_a.html

October 8, 2006> Governor's Election Race= A Preliminary Analysis: Both Schwarzenegger and Angelides Reflected Their Party's Perspectives in Last Night's Debate By Frank D. Russo
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I’m glad Angelides criticized Arnold S.S. for his support of the neo-Minutemen fascist vigilante group. The New Berlin Wall will cause a lot of headaches and heartaches for many on both sides of the fence.

Article=It All Comes Down to a Fence
http://www.vidaenelvalle.com/news/english/story/12835938p-13521039c.html

The General Election Day is Tuesday, November 7th, 2006 for California’s registered voters to decide who will win or not.

Naturally, I will VOTE FOR ANGELIDES for California's next Governor as the best winnable candidate. In fact, I am an absentee voter!

I have great respect for Companero Peter Camejo, he should have been in on the whole debate yet sometimes the winning is in the running. He told me that day that this would be his last run for political office. He will be 67 years old on New Year’s Eve!

As typical, some of our liberal-radical ‘left-wing’ comrades are still lost in the political lurch about whether to Support Phil Angelides or not for Governor. Faint foolish hearts cannot win decisive contests in the thick of battles.

Schwarzenegger may win without the support of the undecided, the many poor ‘have-nots’ and third party independents. There is no strong progressive party though some vanguard elements are rising up! I have an undying faith in the common sense and intelligence of the people.

As Latinos, we need to do basic community education and basic voter registration work in our local communities now and after the elections. The basics remain the basics in terms of our basic survival needs.

We need to utilize Internet Power to discuss and debate critical social issues. Plus, share what we learn with our people who are not online and without Internet Access.

As time goes by, I hope Aztlannet_News Yahoo Group will grow, develop and prosper for the good of all of us. Keep coming back!
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Pedro Olivares <polivares2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello,

I saw the debate too. Phil had better answers and was not show boating his way through the questions. Phil won the debate by 80% on my book. Arnold had to defend his record which is bad to Californians.

I live in East county of San Diego, Ca. I have talked to the Right Winger at length due to the Big Fence. They do not want to be lelated as the Berlin Wall. Right Wingers down here see that their Presidents and the Republican Party has ruined their hopes and have been hit hard by high gas prices all through the Republican Control Congress.

East County of San Diego is like Escondido, Ca. where laws are passed to denies Undocumented residents housing and report them to the authority. The Right Wing individual need to be replaced. We all need to go out and VOTE and I recommend the Immigrants that March
earlier this year to go out and send a strong message.

In over all, I'll be voting soon for Phil and Democratic issues. For the Green Peace, I'm sorry you were not included in the debate.

Actor/Screenwriter and a member of the Ricardo
Montalban Theater and the National Association of
Latino Independent Producers

Pedro Olivares

--- "Peter S. Lopez DE Aztlan"
<sacranative@yahoo.com>
wrote:

10-08-2006 1AM
Gracias Cathy ~ I was there, saw the people, felt the energy, took a few pixs and helped out a little in my own way.

It was a great day and the weather was great, but the debate was not even a real serious debate.

Brother Phil was a great debater, sticking to key talking points, but Arnold S. was no match in terms of Phil's intellect, grasp of the issues or native intelligence.

The well-known asinine arrogance of Arnold S. regurgitated itself and the 'Governator' could not even marshal the basic fundamentals to give real answers to the questions posed.

I thought Channel 13 was slanted against Phil and failed to be objective in its 10 PM news report earlier.

I also met and talked to Companero Peter Camejo running for Governor from the Green Party before the debate and think he should of been included in the debate to add brains, talking-points and fresh
perspectives to the whole debate process. We all lost out because of the lack of inclusion of Camejo in the whole debate. He could of brought out key analyses without worrying about financial backers. Realities are realities in connected reality.

Nevertheless, I support Brother Phil Angelides for Governor and know this will be a busy productive month for all of us.

I will try to find a verbatim of the debate and/or video on the Internet and post it up.

LET US ALL VOTE ON ELECTION DAY =
TUESDAY NOVEMBER 7th!!!
Peter S. Lopez ~ Peta de Aztlan~
Sacramento, California
Email= sacranative@yahoo.com

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"Cathy Calfo, Angelides 2006"
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