Wednesday, November 01, 2006

More Re: [Aztlannet_Action] Re: Angel's comments and Revolution

Noviembre 1, 2006 @1:15 AM ~
In a true spirit of unity, we all need to agree on the basics of survival for our people, work together on a common agenda, share the same general strategy and continue to develop a comprehensive set of tactics in harmony with the connected reality before us HERE NOW; with total liberation projected for the future in a socialist democratic society.
Revolution entails a total transformation in property relations and would be a quantum leap in human evolution, but revolution is era specific. Capitalism was revolutionary when it transformed feudalism, as socialism is revolutionary when it transforms capitalism. One economic system gives way for a further breakout and development in the material forces of production usually via violence aka: class war!
We should by now comprehend the totality of combat in relation to practical creative action. Total combat entails all lines, all angles, all trajectories. Whatever works works and each of us has unique qualities to offer the Movimiento, though, no one is indispensable.
Recall: politics is the continuation of war by other means and war is the continuation of politics by others means. Thus, politics and war are intrinsically interconnected and can often overlap.
Our historical enemies know we are coming and they know their days are numbered. Our historical enemies are like conscious dinosaurs fearing their eventual extinction. The sheer hungry of the people alone will demand the social transformation of class society via liberation by any means mandatory, including class war. Let us not kid ourselves companeros. It is as predictable as nightfall.
For sure, to paraphrase a wise old Chinaman, if there is to be liberation that must be a liberation party, at least, there must be a collection of structured vehicles led by vanguard elements that can offer our people true leadership, help raise consciousness and be open to learning from the genius of the people.
The USA is extremely complicated, contains the brain of the beast and we are already within its central nervous system.
By its very nature the sublime truth is revolutionary and real education is liberating, its frees us of our own inner fears, fallacies and falsehoods.
The key is to raise a kind of cosmic consciousness that helps us see the big picture, at least on a global level. We do what we can with what we have as we work on our own spiritual growth and maturity. Simplify the complex and strive not to complicate the simple.
We feed consciousness by feeding people and there are many kinds of foodstuffs. It is silly to pretend we can meet all the people's needs when the necessary resources are not in our hands. If we could feed all the people why on earth would we strive for revoluton {the poor often abused word used so much it loses its meaning}??
Only the people can make the revolution, not cadres alone. One must lead, follow or get the hell out of the way when the people are on the move and a movement must move forward!
We already have a great wealth of real experiences, direct and indirect, that can help us help the people and we are never alone in our struggles. The most we can be is dedicated servants who stick to our guns, hold onto our principles and always respect each other as comrades even if we disagree over tactical considerations.
It also helps if we have the same general definitions for certain terms and keywords. If we all could sit around the same mesa, break bread together, we would be able to communicate better with each other and learn from each other in all true humility as humbleness helps us advance
Threads often end up in a tangled mess, but at least we are communicating via Emails. WE should try communicating via a group chat or even a conference call.
Our perspectives will naturally differ with our own personal experiences and analyses of our experiences. We are ignorant of all that we do not know and we can help guide each other. Love for the people should be our guiding light.
Come Together and Create! ~Peta-de-Aztlan~
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"Ernest M. Saenz" <zdproductions@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have seen the jungles of the sur, transverses mountains with
obscure militias. I have lived through bombings, bullets and have
the scars to prove it.

You do not know who I am, who I know, nor the life that I have
lived. To say one must be a member of some CIA infiltrated group to prove they are revolutionary is a crucial mistake.

I'll stop here before I too much is said.

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Aztlannet_Action@yahoogroups.com, mexicanoatucla@... wrote:
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> You must not know who I am and what organization I am part of. We are not rookies and we have connections all over the world to rev. movements. Unless you are part of a revolutionary organization or party, your words are just that; words. Our people have done much more than the basic questions that you pose. Like you, I am a student of the movement. I hope you are putting theory into practice like we are. Take care. pe@ce
>
> www.uniondelbarrio.org
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zdproductions@...
> To:
Aztlannet_Action@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 2:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Aztlannet_Action] Angel's comments and Revolution
>
> I like seeing the seed we planted in the 60s start to grow and
enjoyed reading your dream of Aztlan.
>
> Answer these questions:
>
> 1) how would you feed 10,000 people 3 times a day for 1000 days?
>
> 2) how would you dispose of their waste on a continual basis?
>
> 3) where will you get water for these people?
>
> 4) how will you clothe them?
>
> 5) how will you give them shelter?
>
> When you can not only answer these questions, but implement the program, you will have taken your first baby step towards considering the concept of revolution. There are five more questions that need answering, but these are a good start.
>
> Keep learning and don't stop dreaming - I haven't!
>
>
> mexicanoatucla@... wrote:
> It IS completely impossible to be a revolutionary and support the USA. That would be a complete contradiction. For some Aztlan is a "concept" or a "state of mind" but not for all. Some of us want our land back...not mentally or spiritually...no, no, no....we want it back PHYSICALLY! The American revolution was NOT a revolution. It was a war between Indian and African killers but there was nothing revolutionary about it. All of it was fought on stolen land and at the expense of people of color.
>
> We need our OWN land back and we need our OWN government, one that will work to benefit ALL people, not just rich Whites. This government CANNOT and WILL NOT be a capitalist one. Therefore, it CANNOT and WILL NOT be the US of A Gov, regardless of whether its Republican or Democrat. Both represent the same thing. Both benefit the elite. Both benefit the capitalist state.
>
> Don't let the liberals brainwash you with thier Democratic Party or Green Party crap. Democrats were the ones that implemented Operation Gatekeeper and most Democrats just voted for the 700 mile Border Fence and for HR 4437. Nothing short of a totally new Revolutionary government will adress the needs of our people and poor people in general.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: madscottsman76@...
> To:
Aztlannet_Action@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 1:57 PM
> Subject: [Aztlannet_Action] Angel's comments and Revolution
>
> Angel,
>
> It is entirely possible to be a revolutionary and still support the
United States of America.
>
> Aztlan is not anti-America (or, anti United States, if you will.)
>
> Aztlan does not attempt to supplant the US of A, or replace it with another authority. Reconquista is NOT a physical transformation of the authority of Washington, D.C., by a new authority. It is the Revoutionary spirit of the American Revolution that should never die in the hearts of all Americans.
>
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