Monday Night ~ 11-06-2006 Gracias for your response!
The public cage would be cruel and unusual punishment, better just to get a rope and save on a bullet. However, I am not Iraqi and you are correct it should be done in a way approved by the Iraqi people, but who will take the poll or do the survey? I am surprised he was not killed when he was in the Spider Hole!
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Linda Whittaker <olsvig2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Peter, one important consideration: the trial of Saddam has to be perceived as justice by the people of Iraq, who have very different views about death penalties than Americans have. I think one has to take that into consideration. Iraq is still a region of clan warfare (you kill one of mine, so I kill one of yours). Anything less than hanging would not be seen as justice in Iraq. On the other hand, his execution is likely to trigger a big clash of Sunni (Saddam supporters) and Shiite (Saddam victims) where very many people wil die, many of them quite innocent. It will take the wisdom of Solomon to determine the right punishment for Saddam which does not cost hundreds of innocent lives.
Me, I would suggest putting him on display in a big cage in a public area for the rest of his life. Therefore no clan bloodshed, and for Saddam maybe a fate worst than death--which he really deserves.
Linda
"Peter S. Lopez de Aztlan" Email= sacranative@yahoo.com ; wrote:
"Peter S. Lopez de Aztlan" Email= sacranative@yahoo.com ; wrote:
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Hola All Members of the Humane Family ~
Gracias for your educational Email Brother Palashc! I took the liberty of editing it for better readability and made more separate paragraphs in the hopes that more people will read it as your Email with its sources brought up several relevant points about the sad Saddam Case.
Hola All Members of the Humane Family ~
Gracias for your educational Email Brother Palashc! I took the liberty of editing it for better readability and made more separate paragraphs in the hopes that more people will read it as your Email with its sources brought up several relevant points about the sad Saddam Case.
My first animal instinct is to be glad the verdict is in and that Saddam is to be hanged as he was and is a great evildoer, then, my striving to be a conscious humane being makes me ponder upon this a little longer before we run out and take a basket collection for a rope. It has not been a cut and dry case.
As a humane principle, I am against the death penalty as wielded by an unjust state, but there are exceptional cases when the death penalty is appropriate when great crimes have been committed. I am no pacifist while war plagues the people.
However, judging by the way death penalty verdicts are stalled out by appeals inside the United States I doubt if there will be a Saddam Hanging Video on U-Tube anytime soon.
I believe there should have been an international tribunal and neutral grounds for the Saddam Trial, which became a big media circus, not to mention the killing of officers of the court. The whole case involves matters of global international law, especially when we consider the question of who kept Saddam in power for so long in the first place?
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Iraq: Declassified Documents of U.S. Support for Hussein
With Joyce Battle / Middle East Analyst, National Security Archive at George Washington University =Thursday, Feb. 27, 2003; 11 a.m. ET
The National Security Archive at George Washington University has published a series of declassified U.S. documents detailing the U.S. embrace of Saddam Hussein in the early 1980’s. The collection of documents, published on the Web, include briefing materials, diplomatic reports of two Rumsfeld trips to Baghdad, reports on Iraqi chemical weapons use during the Reagan administration and presidential directives that ensure U.S. access to the region's oil and military expansion…..
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Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein: The U.S. Tilts toward Iraq, 1980-1984
National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 82
Edited by Joyce Battle / February 25, 2003
Rumsfeld Shaking Hands with Saddam =
Then, there is also the central question of war crimes done by war criminals from the USA, including President Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and the whole Oval Office Cabal and their cronies. Who will put them on trial? How can we condemn crimes against humanity by one evil dictator and condone the inhumanity of another evil dictator who stole the Presidential Election in 2000?
The U.S. government obviously does not give a damn about the desires and wishes of the Iraqui people for peace and justice, so why should it start caring now? It already allows the rape and murder of innocent Iraqi girls and massacres of Iraqi families! Remember that or does memory fail you? Who will stop these mutant Amerikan War criminals and their bastard offspring?
John 8:7 -- So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone..."
And evil rulers in glass houses should not throw stones!
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Peter S. Lopez ~aka Peta-de-Aztlan
HumanE Liberation Party
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palashc biswas <palashcbiswas@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Death Penalty, Saddam hussain and Humanity
Palash Biswas
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Kolkata- 700110, India. Phone: 033-25659551)Saddam Hussein was sentenced to death in Baghdad by hanging after being found guilty of crimes against humanity.Saddam was president of Iraq from 1979 to 2003, when his Sunni-dominated government was deposed by a US-led invasion.Iraq war protagonists the United States and Britain have led the applause after justice was meted out to Saddam Hussein.Saddam Hussein may not executed by hanging until the start of next year, as there is no time limit set for the
appeals process,
the chief investigative judge Raed Juhi said today.Mr Juhi said:"There is no specific time limit for the appeals process. But after they have made their decision, the punishment must be implemented within 30 days."{CUT HERE=See Group Message Link Above ~PSL }
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